Greater Than Code

The Human Side of Technology

About the show

For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.

Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.

We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon.

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  • 161: Making Space with Bärí A. Williams

    December 18th, 2019  |  1 hr 27 mins

    Bärí A. Williams talks about intersectionality and culture, gentrification, being born and raised in Oakland, connecting to your roots, unintended consequences, who’s job is it to educate school children about bias, diversity or inclusion, and taking space or making space.

  • 160: Thermodynamics of the Twitterverse

    December 11th, 2019  |  42 mins 15 secs

    The panelists talk about the thermodynamics of the Twitterverse. This includes getting sucked into Twitter vortexes, dynamics of human emotion, creating safe spaces for emotionally charged conversations, radical inclusion, overidentification, digital activism, tribal dynamics, having the right to rage, changing frequencies of people, call-out culture, and that ultimately: everyone is human.

  • The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    December 10th, 2019  |  12 mins 10 secs

    On this day in Paris in 1948, the United Nations issued the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a milestone document that sets out the fundamental rights and privileges of all people and all nations. In honor of the anniversary of this document, the panelists of Greater Than Code have come together to share their reading of the document with all of you.

  • 159: Bias in AI with Lauren Maffeo

    December 4th, 2019  |  59 mins 3 secs

    Lauren Maffeo talks about bias in AI, how the media affects people’s perception of AI, concerns of small to midsize businesses pertaining to AI, how to mitigate bias in AI, ethics in AI, fairness vs. accuracy in algorithms, preventing bias in AI, working remotely, and diversity and inclusion in the workplace.

  • 158: Exploring Company Values with Ariel Caplan

    November 27th, 2019  |  1 hr 2 mins

    Ariel Caplan talks about extreme irritability, accessibility needs, rabbinical school, and developing company values.

  • 157: Reinventing Education with Willem Larsen

    November 20th, 2019  |  1 hr 16 mins

    Willem Larsen talks about accelerated community learning, reimagining the education system, stages of human life, the Thermodynamics of Emotion Symposium, and listening to what the community needs.

  • 156: Authenticity in Interviewing with James Edward Gray II

    November 13th, 2019  |  1 hr 2 mins

    James Edward Gray II talks about why “Just Be Yourself” is terrible advice, being authentic in an interview, turning your interviewer into your advocate, intrinsic motivation, technical interviews, storytelling in the interview, and management techniques.

  • 155: Ethical Open Source with Don Goodman-Wilson

    November 6th, 2019  |  55 mins 8 secs

    Don Goodman-Wilson talks about ethics and Open Source, consequentialism vs contractualism, the paradox of tolerance, enforceability of open source licenses, compensation as an ethical consideration, quantifying the value the Open Source Software gives, and empowering people who participate in Open Source.

  • 154: Filtering Your Brain with Ambreen Hasan

    October 30th, 2019  |  44 mins 46 secs

    Ambreen Hasan talks about fixed mindset vs growth mindset, her hobbies outside of software, thinking about things in a molecular way, her journey into software engineering, self-advocating for new work experience, and empathy in engineering.

  • 153: Your Favorite Philosopher Is You with Mannah Kallon

    October 23rd, 2019  |  40 mins 46 secs

    Mannah Kallon talks about assessing identity and evaluating sense of self in a new culture, using offensive terms, moments of self-doubt when someone doesn’t believe you, empathy, retaliation, and recognizing privilege.

  • 152: Embracing Mathematics with Philip Wadler

    October 16th, 2019  |  49 mins 32 secs

    Philip Wadler talks about Programming Language Foundations in Agda, using a proof assistant, specifications, and how to translate abstract concepts so practitioners can use them.

  • Special Edition: Becoming an Elder & the "Stage Two" of Life

    October 15th, 2019  |  4 mins 55 secs

    This audio clip is a conversation between Claire Lew & Arty Starr about the journey of becoming an Elder, and why Arty decided to change her name.

  • 151: Off Meta with Amir Rajan

    October 9th, 2019  |  1 hr 10 mins

    Amir Rajan talks about having sensitivity to development pain, developer productivity, optimizing local maxima, and game development.

  • 150: Cultural Transformation with Brian Lonsdorf

    October 2nd, 2019  |  1 hr 5 mins

    Brian Lonsdorf talks about the role of empathy in teaching and learning, learning and teaching functional programming, compositional programming in JavaScript, and machine learning and AI.

  • 149: Creating Effective Culture with Jesse James

    September 25th, 2019  |  1 hr 11 mins

    Jesse James talks with the panelists about all things culture: culture fit, creating, building, and forcing culture, affecting culture, culture as a descriptor, culture as an ongoing process, and the fact that culture evolves so rapidly that it can be hard to keep up with.

  • 148: Floober and Cognitive Outsourcing with Jacob Stoebel

    September 18th, 2019  |  58 mins 43 secs

    Jacob Stoebel joins GTC as an official panelist and talks about neurodiversity in workplaces, driving desire to learn things, personal automation, and storycrafting and succession planning.