Greater Than Code

The Human Side of Technology

About the show

For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.

Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.

We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon.

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  • 146: Self.conference with Amber Conville

    September 4th, 2019  |  37 mins 1 sec

    Amber Conville gives the 411 on all things Self.-related like the evolution and background, the transparency of conference metrics, partnering with organizations, navigating the conference organization world, and past conference highlights.

  • 145: Balancing Hierarchies and Equity in Organizations with Brandy Foster

    August 28th, 2019  |  1 hr 3 mins

    Brandy Foster talks about code of ethics, the role of diversity and inclusion in solving problems, balancing hierarchies and equity in organizations, and unlearning racism and other harmful behaviors.

  • 144: Being Greater Than Code with Jamison Dance

    August 21st, 2019  |  50 mins 46 secs

    Jamison Dance joins the show to talk about life as an engineering manager: context switching, career advancement, and providing team members with opportunities for growth. He also talks about his podcast that he co-hosts: Soft Skills Engineering, the evolution of tech culture, and organizing the React Rally conference.

  • 143: Indigenous Data Sovereignty with Keoni Mahelona

    August 14th, 2019  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Keoni Mahelona talks about the importance of having respect for indiginous cultures, communities, and people. He talks about indigenous data sovereignty: creating a license to protect it, sharing data responsibly, and the importance of doing the right thing.

  • 142: Modeling Constraints in Human Systems with Will Larson

    August 7th, 2019  |  1 hr 10 mins

    Will Larson talks about systems thinking and theory. How do you know when to stop modeling? How do you figure out what your team’s rate of change is? How can we share ideas and contribute together as a community? The panel discusses.

  • 141: Navigating Blame

    July 31st, 2019  |  48 mins 16 secs

    The panelists talk about blame: perspectives on blame, blamelessness, postmortems/incident reviews, the fact that systems are benign, survival rules, and gaining EQ and inward exploration.

  • 140: Bounded Perfection with Amitai Schleier

    July 24th, 2019  |  58 mins 12 secs

    Amitai Schleier talks about talks about running mail servers, orientation in problem spaces, refactoring, and the concept of “bounded perfection”.

  • 139: Conferencing

    July 18th, 2019  |  59 mins 19 secs

    As veteran conference speakers, the panelists decided to have a conversation around conferences: what newbies can expect, how to make the most out of them, and advice for if you’re thinking about speaking.

  • 138: Job Satisfaction

    July 10th, 2019  |  1 hr 3 mins

    This conversation came from a discussion in the Greater Than Code Slack community. We spend a lot of hours of our lives doing our jobs. Do you look forward to those hours? Do you dread those hours? Are they enhancing your life? Are they ruining your life? How does your job affect your whole self as a person? The panel discusses.

  • 137: Pairing & Sharing with Llewellyn Falco and Clare Macrae

    July 3rd, 2019  |  1 hr 8 mins

    Llewellyn Falco and Clare Macrae talk about the special bond and kinship they have formed via pair programming, as well as the sharing and writing of documentation from the perspective of what the human reading it is trying to accomplish.

  • 136: Addressing Technical Friction

    June 26th, 2019  |  55 mins 5 secs

    In this episode, the panelists talk about a Tweet of Sam’s that had recently gotten some attention re: responsible refactoring and technical friction. They discuss reacting to other people’s code with kindness and empathy, requesting code walkthroughs, being explicit and clearly stating the problems you are trying to solve within your codebases before refactoring, and what to do if you experience resistance.

  • 135: Intentional Learning with Saron Yitbarek

    June 19th, 2019  |  1 hr 4 mins

    Saron Yitbarek talks about what it means to be an expert in “Newbie-ism”, explores the idea that coding is a reflection of people, and shares why lexicon and creating a shared language amongst a community matters.

  • 134: Building Profiles with Halleemah Nash

    June 12th, 2019  |  54 mins 51 secs

    Halleemah Nash talks about the ideas of “cultural fluency" and “urban authenticity”: operating authentically and being who you are in any space you are in. Other concepts discussed are existing in Other spaces, active listening, and building bridges to change the complexion of the workforce by shortening the distance for Generation Z.

  • 133: Dark Horses with Chanté Thurmond

    June 5th, 2019  |  1 hr 6 mins

    Chanté Thurmond talks about spotting talent (dark horses), perceiving talent/potential, confronting biases and societal categorization, identity as a feedback loop, and using metrics to improve organizational D&I.

  • 132: Distilling the Hailstorm with Claire Lew

    May 29th, 2019  |  43 mins 2 secs

    Claire Lew of Know Your Team, joins the panel to talk about bad bosses: panelist experiences, symptoms of poor leadership and management, and asks the question, “how do we know that we, ourselves are not bad bosses?”

  • 131: Poo-Covered Rocks with Cat Swetel

    May 22nd, 2019  |  52 mins 59 secs

    Cat Swetel joins the show to talk about managing a platform with ancient value, exploring systems, Wardley mapping, and looking for poo-covered rocks: the importance of observation and reflection.