John K. Sawers

Co-Host of Greater Than Code

Amongst John’s weaponry are public speaking, doing the rails thing, and talking about feelings in public. His technology talks aren’t about technology and sometimes he has time to meditate. He remembers the sound of dialup.

Soon, John will no longer write much code, having intentionally (yes, intentionally) moved into management. He seems to think that making people better is more satisfying than making computers better. With that in mind he’s also spent a lot of time mentoring bootcamp developers and supervising workshops focused on deep emotional work.

He spends days at Privia Health, nights as co-founder and CTO of Data Simply and all the rest of it at and

John K. Sawers has hosted 95 Episodes.