Greater Than Code

The Human Side of Technology

About the show

For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.

Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.

We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon.

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  • 194: I Don’t Need You To Like Me, I Need You To Hate Racism with Dr. Courtney D. Cogburn

    August 5th, 2020  |  1 hr 13 mins

    Dr. Courtney D. Cogburn talks about racism: Antiracism is a lifelong learning process, understanding white supremacy, the fact that having empathy is insufficient, and how systemic racism is embedded in the technology field and how we as technologists should be shifting orientation.

  • 193: Optimizing For Happiness with Tudor Gîrba

    July 29th, 2020  |  1 hr 13 mins

    Tudor Gîrba talks about how writing code is storytelling, optimizing for happiness while working, reading, and writing code, the concept of moldable development, editing code as a joint activity, and encouraging and supporting the presentation of new ideas and out-of-the-box thinking.

  • 192: Bringing Our Whole Selves with Siobhán Cronin

    July 22nd, 2020  |  50 mins 44 secs

    Siobhán Cronin talks about managing change during COVID-19, the pros and cons of bringing your whole self to work, and that people have to do work on themselves to be successful.

  • 191: Sitting Down Together with Amy Tobey

    July 15th, 2020  |  1 hr 8 mins

    In this episode, Amy Tobey talks about looking at messes and seeing the potential for what they could be, generalists vs specialists, artisanal and industrial modes of production, and why whistleblowing is good (because misuse of authority is bad).

  • 190: Social Media, Privacy, and Security with Joe LeBlanc

    July 8th, 2020  |  41 mins 48 secs

    In this episode, Joe LeBlanc talks about having hospitality on and offline, the fact that it's time for us to stop acting like we are getting access to social media for free, owning your identity & data, protecting children’s identity & data, and the movement to reclaim our data.

  • 189: Succeeding in Science with Deborah Berebichez

    July 1st, 2020  |  1 hr 10 mins

    Dr. Deborah Berebichez talks about teaching science to kids in fun ways, data literacy, why getting negative results in science is important, the fact that human performance is contextual, and her path to becoming a scientist and ultimately a TV-show host on The Discovery Channel.

  • 188: Going Off the Rails with Damien Burke

    June 24th, 2020  |  59 mins 32 secs

    Damien Burke talks about life being hard: How do we make things easy? Also: treating expertise as transferable to different fields, loving yourself unconditionally, his background in theater and applying it to tech, and "ontological coaching."

  • 187: Seeing The World with Bryan Liles

    June 17th, 2020  |  47 mins 56 secs

    Bryan Liles talks about his ability to see the world as it is, conferencing and working from home during Quarantine, fighting and overcoming meritocracy, and how people work, and finding power in other things.

  • 186: The Universe Makes it Happen with Emily Gorcenski

    June 10th, 2020  |  1 hr 5 mins

    In this episode, Emily Gorcenski talks about hunting Nazis and how doing so involves data science. She also talks about failure and learning and being willing to be wrong, the need for systematic restructuring in America, and nuance, power, and authority.

  • Special Edition: #BlackLivesMatter

    June 4th, 2020  |  1 hr 31 mins

    Listen. Learn. Love.

  • 185: Adaptive Capacity and Mutual Aid with Michelle Glauser

    June 3rd, 2020  |  58 mins 32 secs

    In this episode, Michelle Glauser talks about Techtonica: full-time tech training with living stipends and laptops to Bay Area women and non-binary adults with low incomes, then place graduates into jobs with sponsor companies.

  • 184: The Python Software Foundation and the Future of Conferencing with Naomi Ceder & Ewa Jodlawska

    May 27th, 2020  |  1 hr 1 min

    In this episode, Naomi Ceder & Ewa Jodlawska talk about the Python Software Foundation and speculate what the future of conferences might look like due to the pandemic.

  • 183: How We Learn with Vaidehi Joshi

    May 20th, 2020  |  1 hr 12 mins

    In this episode, Vaidehi Joshi talks about how we learn: approaching it, brain percolation, improving over time, and doing your best.

  • 182: Labor Organizing with Ellen Wondra

    May 13th, 2020  |  50 mins 1 sec

    In this episode, Ellen Wondra talks about labor organization. She explains what shareholder and stakeholder economies are, and talks a lot about how things are done in Germany. The panelists speculate about why tech workers aren’t organizing more, and how we could potentially help ourselves and our coworkers if we did.

  • 181: Normalcy Theater with Aaron Aldrich

    May 6th, 2020  |  56 mins 7 secs

    In this episode, Aaron Aldrich joins the show to talk about how everything has a technical aspect, connecting high-performing resilient teams, how a virtual tech conference has actually worked in the wake of COVID-19, and a concept called normalcy theater: maintaining a sense that everything is okay when it’s clearly not.

  • 180: Open Source Freedom and Technical Purity with Tobie Langel

    April 29th, 2020  |  50 mins 32 secs

    Co-Conspirator of Ethical Open Source, Tobie Langel talks about open source freedom and technical purity: developer attachment, privacy, security, and flavors of safety, the problems with prioritizing implementers over end-users, and internationalization issues.