161: Making Space with Bärí A. Williams

December 18th, 2019 · 1 hr 27 mins

About this Episode

01:48 - Bärí’s Superpower: Being a Black Woman

05:20/22:50 - Admitting and Knowing What You Don’t Know

  • Intersectionality and Culture

10:00 - Born and Raised in Oakland

  • Gentrification
  • What is the Deficit of the City
  • Being Connected to Your Roots

19:30 - Unintended Consequences

  • Building Algorithms That Fact Check
  • You Don’t Know What You Don’t Know
  • Facts Are Not Facts Anymore
  • Tutorial to Boy Scouts About Getting Stopped by Police
  • Keeping the Kids Alive

33:15 - Where is the Light (In the Technology)

  • Technology is the Mirror of the People Creating It
  • Creating an Open Space
  • Prioritizing Important Events

42:34 - Getting Organizations to Buy Into the Open Space Concept

48:50 - Who’s Job is it to Educate the Children About Bias

58:47 - Diversity or Inclusion

  • Lagging Metric or Leading Metric
  • Draw People In With Inclusion

01:03:59 - Taking Space and Making Space


Arty: Multigenerational roots, becoming your own being, being raised to be proud of yourself and say what you think. Be the roots for the people around you. There has been a loss of grounding.

Chanté: Bärí is the real deal. It takes only a few to change history. Being real is valuable.

Jacob: Wants his son to know that he won’t have to worry when being pulled over, and he should be troubled by that fact.

Bärí: What do you connect to, who do you connect to? What and who are you thankful for? Think about that.

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