194: I Don’t Need You To Like Me, I Need You To Hate Racism with Dr. Courtney D. Cogburn
August 5th, 2020 · 1 hr 13 mins
About this Episode
02:28 - Courtney’s Superpower: Speaking on the Topic of Racism
“You can’t prioritize your discomfort over living your own values.” – Courtney
- White Liberals Are Dangerous: the “I’m liberal...I’m not that bad” narrative
- Action & Engaging in Antiracist Practices Over Lipservice
- Antiracism is a Lifelong Learning Process
- Not Seeing Race is Problematic – Disproportive Representation
13:16 - Adopting Attitudes Towards Antiracism
- Understanding White Supremacy
- If It’s Not Antiracist, It’s Racist
16:24 - 1000 Cut Journey
- "1000 Cut Journey" Launches at Tribeca Film Festival
- Culture, Narratives, and Stories are Powerful Tools
- Feedback & Reactions
25:59 - Empathy is Insufficient
- Are you aware of how white you are?
34:34 - The Tendency to Avoid Racism and Talking About Race
39:30 - Systemic Racism and Technology
- Diversity is Not About Aesthetics
- Centering Race
- Training & Onboarding
- Hiring From Non-Traditional Backgrounds
- Understanding “Social Work”
- Shifting Orientation:
- Being Antiracist
- Being Transdisciplinary
- Understanding that avoiding harm is not the same thing as achieving justice
Reflections:
Rein: “Intention without strategy is chaos.” – Dr. Kim Crayton
Arty: Taking an antiracist approach to product development.
Jacob: Thinking more about the phrase “transdisciplinary” and the difference between it and “interdisciplinary.”
Courtney: 1. Talking about difficult things in a way that can be anchored in learning. 2. It’s not about what you believe; it’s what you do. 3. There is no neutral in marginalization and oppression.
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