051: Creating Safer Spaces with Soo Choi

October 18th, 2017 · 48 mins 4 secs

About this Episode

00:16 – Welcome to “The Venn Diagram Podcast. It’s a little bit of this and a little bit of that, but it’s definitely not that other thing.” …we mean, “Greater Than Code!”

01:09 – Soo’s Background at NASA and Superpower

06:01 – Wanting Attending Conferences and Speaking and then When Speaking at Conferences Goes Wrong

Soo Choi: Changing Diversity Constructs: My Journey as a Woman in DevOps @ DevOpsDays D.C. 2017

16:10 – Creating Safe Spaces: From Conferences to Workspaces

21:29 – Allies and Advocacy; Talking Salary

24:12 – Safe Spaces vs Safer Spaces

28:16 – Forgiving People Without Labeling Them (i.e. Sexist, Racist, etc.)

38:28 – Having “Fierce Conversations” and Collecting Better Tools

Aja Hammerly: We Don’t Do That Here


Soo: Sharing experiences in open and safer spaces.

Sam: Listening to each other’s experiences. Sit with cognitive dissonance, be okay with it, and see what it has to teach us.

Jessica: Learning from other’s experiences.

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